Embedded in the spectrography of Windowlicker.

You’ll never guess what’s embedded in Venetian Snares “Songs About My Cats”…

In an effort to lash out at the world for the grinding horror of their sad meaningless jobs, flight attendants have taken to using sadistic paranoid hatred as a weapon against their helpless captives.

One passenger on a Delta flight from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City was arrested for leaving his seat to go to the lavatory less than 30 minutes before landing (due to the incident, air marshals ordered all passengers to put their hands on their heads for the rest of the flight).

Fear the freakishly cheap head of Brian Twelve Bones.

The only real communication anyone in the neighborhood had with her was when she called the police and fire departments on her next-door neighbor, Michelle Gandley, who had put out tiki lamps for a Hawaiian luau party….

Whether Foggo had official dealings with prostitutes in Honduras or not, this was clearly a big problem. “Dusty would have been the perfect target of a counter-intelligence operation,” said one official who worked in Honduras at the time. “He had access and knowledge, and was reckless and visible. You’re only vulnerable if you make yourself vulnerable, and that’s what Dusty did.”

This will be Iraq all over again, with the same fetid mix of graft, zeal and hubris. Cronyism like you wouldn’t believe. Money blown on ideological fantasies and half-baked test-cases.

You could come up with a hundred reasons why that’s true. But at root intentions drive all. You’ll never separate this operation or its results from the fact that the people in charge see it as a political operation. The use of this money for political purposes, for what amounts to a political campaign, tells you everything you need to know about what’s coming.

Today, in the New York Times:

Republicans said Karl Rove, the White House deputy chief of staff and Mr. Bush’s chief political adviser, was in charge of the reconstruction effort, which reaches across many agencies of government…

After four and a half years of this shit, the only constant seems to be that it can always get worse.

New York Times story: White House Enacts a Plan to Ease Political Damage

In a reflection of what has long been a hallmark of Mr. Rove’s tough political style, the administration is also working to shift the blame away from the White House and toward officials of New Orleans and Louisiana who, as it happens, are Democrats.

“The way that emergency operations act under the law is the responsibility and the power, the authority, to order an evacuation rests with state and local officials,” Mr. Chertoff said in his television interview. “The federal government comes in and supports those officials.”

And this Washington Post story: White House Shifts Blame

In a Washington briefing, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said one reason federal assets were not used more quickly was ‘because our constitutional system really places the primary authority in each state with the governor.’”

That would be Michael Chertoff, the guy in charge of Homeland Security. And this is what the Homeland Security website says about who has primary responsibility in a large-scale emergency:

In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort.

It’s hard to cut through all the legal gobbledygook in that passage, but it kinda sorta sounds like Michael Chertoff had “primary responsibility” for letting New Orleans die and leaving it to rot. Just so we’re clear about which graves to spit on.

And speaking of Karl Rove, the Washington Post on September 4 and Newsweek in their upcoming issue repeated the easily disproven lie by a “senior administration official” that Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco waited for several days to declare a state of emergency (Karl is so cute when he’s desperate.)

How easy is this lie to disprove?

Press Release
Date: 8/26/2005

GOVERNOR BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY

Then she spent the next day trying to get Cheney on board, as shown in this memo from Kathleen Blanco to the President requesting a federal state of emergency.

August 27, 2005

Dear Mr. President:

I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005…

While that is awfully vague, it does sound like a request for a state of emergency. I guess we’ll leave it to the lawyers to sort this one out.

But did Bush, as Commander in Chief, have authority over the National Guard in a time of national crisis?

Bush had the legal authority to order the National Guard to the disaster area himself, as he did after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

There’s probably several ways to interpret that….

Because there must have been some huge, overwhelming issue at the core of our Republic, some key Constitutional principle that Bush could not violate, some bedrock foundation of our Democracy that was worth standing by on the sidelines while Americans died. What could have been this immovable object in the path of his irresistible force?

Paperwork.

paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn’t come from Washington until late Thursday.

He is the CEO President after all.

Oh yeah. And vacations. Turns out that not just Bush, but everybody in the entire goddamned White House stayed out on vacation during the worst disaster in American history:

In interviews, these Republicans said that the normally nimble White House political operation had fallen short in part because the president and his aides were scattered outside Washington on vacation, leaving no one obviously in charge at a time of great disruption. Mr. Rove and Mr. Bush were in Texas, while Vice President Dick Cheney was at his Wyoming ranch.

Mr. Bush’s communications director, Nicolle Devenish, was married this weekend in Greece, and a number of Mr. Bush’s political advisers – including Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman – attended the wedding.

Ms. Rice did not return to Washington until Thursday, after she was spotted at a Broadway show and shopping for shoes, an image that Republicans said buttressed the notion of a White House unconcerned with tragedy.

And that is why we can definitively blame this disaster on the French. Not only did they pick a bad spot for a city, they also forced the White House into a Vacation Race. And if everyone hadn’t been trying to out-vacation the French — for the good of America — then they would have been on the scene last week, blaming the Democrats. Damn you Frenchy!

But high in the running for the most creative attempt to shift blame, Rick Scarborough of the theocratic lobbying organization Vision America has blamed the hurricane on, among other things, horse bestiality.

Horse bestiality.

Which makes no sense at all. Let’s try using it in a sentence:
A guy in Washington died while having sex with a horse, so God slaughtered thousands of poor black people in the South in an act of vengeance.

No. That still makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever.
Let’s try an analogy:
God is to man as hurricane is to horse bestiality.

Ahh… no. I still don’t get it.

At the Huffington Post, Max Blumenthal tries to parse this mysterious Theocratic Code in a more pointed way:

Is Scarborough suggesting something even more sinister than we know about FEMA head Michael Brown’s days at the International Arabian Horse Association? Could Brown have somehow planned Katrina to distract from possible future revelations of horse buggering? And will Katrina now head north and east, towards Russia, where God will exact revenge for the death of Catherine the Great? Or could Scarborough be deadly serious in blaming a bunch of stallion shaggers in rural Washington for flooding New Orleans? Sometime a horse is just a horse, of course.

I guess you could call it surreal, except the surrealists were not anywhere near this level of frightening perversion.

Mafia-linked corruption kingpin Bernard Kerik apparently used his psychic
bookie to get inside info on hurricanes:

They knew five days, six days in advance there was a category 5 storm.

[Two days before landfall, Katrina was a strong Category 2]

Imagine trying to distinguish between link spam and “real” links — who sits on that committee? Imagine a website with thousands of insulting links to a candidate, intermingled with gay porn — how much is that contribution worth? Links in comments — worth more or less? What if for every link I made to my candidate, I also made a gratuitous link to the opponent (who I openly call an idiot) — is that equal time? What if I only link to candidates I hate but I talk up candidates I like? What if I make links too small to read? If I make links bigger, are they worth more? Trackbacks — illicit contribution or political vandalism?

The whole issue quickly gets too stupid to even imagine. In fact it’s completely insane. And it should be welcomed as such.

Becasue this is nothing but a shallow scare tactic by a Republican bureaucrat who hates McCain-Feingold. Even if his imagined restrictions did somehow pass the innumerable challenges (which seems impossible), any attempt at implimentation would be gamed into non-existence literally in a matter of minutes. Making the whole thing look more like a cheap backdoor attack on campaign finance reform.

So I for one welcome our new link-spam monitoring overlords.

Update:
I think someone at redstate.org is trying to gently insult me?
Fuck. I guess that means that I’m part of the “blogosphere.” How horrifying….

I tell you what, redstate. When the Republican-led FEC (acting in consort with the Republican controlled Congress and Executive) finally manages to shut down all electronic speech, I’ll make sure that the only links (aka “illicit political contributions”) I make will be to all y’all.

If you are interested in contributing to telekenesis (or telekinesis) research, please visit the LubberNet Telekenesis Node

• AFter you manage to “open” your sub-mind and mind disipline…I guess I can share “How” and “What” is the other key to moving objects…….Research…Electromagnetic Fields and Electrostatic fields…with the help of your sub-mind….you can research the best frequency your mind is tuned to……almost like a radio dial….physical tools you will need is Lime Rock and Granite Rock…..as with nature…the rubbing of these two rocks will create a field that would help you “tune in” your mind……..but you must first understand what I just posted to unlock your ability OR to become more I’d say….efficient…..

  Ths is the “How” …….nothing with bad spirits or whatnot…
  Posted by: Kieth at January 1, 2004 04:18 PM

• i can see something, like a wormhole of blue, violet, purple light. after the wormhole like structure cleared, i see many unfamiliar faces, they move so fast like a video camera filming the crowd while cameraman is in the car moving. they are blurred and i think they almost look alike. im experiencing it since i was a child, it scared me. until now ihave that same vision/experience when i concentrate on a particular view, they are clear when it is very dark. i can see it even if i closed my eyes. does anybody having the same experience that i have been experiencing?
  Posted by: kix at January 4, 2004 06:17 AM
• Ok guys I did the water thing with the toothpick, nothing, I thought maybe I had a chance because I am kind of intuitive. Sometimes when I am asking someone a question I will know the answer before they give it to me, It works for me often with numbers. But if I think about doing it it doesnt work. WTF! I want this to work for me all the time, on command :I Anyways does anyone have any reccomendation on what I think about when I am trying to move the toothpick, do I clear my mind or what? Or how about the gift I know I have telepthy how do I sharpen that? Im a salesman that would be a big plus =fi

  thanks

  Matt
  Posted by: Avatuar at January 4, 2004 11:02 PM

• kieth,in your research and meditation have you learned anything about the human race,like why we have telekinetic abilities, what is the use of a sub mind, and can understanding this help in the development of telekinesis? Why do we have to learn it. curious about what you know!

  anyone feel free to answer if you can
  Posted by: Majesty at January 4, 2004 11:30 PM

• just surfed in.. great stuff
  Posted by: hanni at January 13, 2004 01:03 AM
• I had a nice vacation!!!…..hhhmmmm……Have I learned anything about the human race..my race I shall say…Why yes….hmmmm yes again…I’ll post later..I need more time!!!

  Posted by: Kieth at January 13, 2004 05:58 PM

• Envision a tunnel and your mind reaching out through that tunnel to a certain object you are trying to move.I can’t see auras but i can feel their energy.I think when you are angry is the best time for telekenises…maybe just for me…I can sometimes channel my anger to make a force that can move an object.

  You wont achieve these powers if you are looking for something to impress your friends.
  Posted by: person at January 18, 2004 07:50 AM

• Err Keith, as you seem to be ‘the man in the know’ here… Can you possibly give me any ideas of where to go to find any books relating to the history of telekensis please? I really need to find some information on where it all began, oh and also about the theory that we use only so much of our brain power would be really useful.

  Many thanks

  p.s. what does ‘Imao’ mean?

  Posted by: Lauren at January 19, 2004 01:28 PM

• Majesty…… I think I can come up with a half way good answer for you….are you still around??….

  Anger ……person??????…..thats sonething a person should avoid….imagine the hunting others would do in that case…….

  Lauren…..I only post to what I know and have been doing….I can say that understanding the first steps will provide insight to what a person may or what to do….If you read and understand word for word….you can be directed to the right path….no $19.99 fee here….LMAO….=(Laughing My Arse Off)…..One thing I will share what happened to me this weekend…I was getting my haircut at the mall….the woman who was cutting my hair started small talk…then she stopped….looked at my head..(I saw from the reflection on the mirror). then she said…your son’s name is Robert right?….I said “Yes”…then she cut a few minutes then stopped again…I can tell she was trying to read my mind…or my submind or I can say my brain was being read….I guess she was trying to either impress or spook me…..I turned the tide ….I found her “wavelength” and I imaged her eating and eating and eating…I sent waves of heartbeats and at that point I can see she was very uneasy….I played stupid and asked..”What”…….I can say I spooked myself…..I will try moving objects this spring but I can say for sure….this is REAL…..very REAL.>!!

  Research at the library…..find out about Electromagetic and Staticmagetic fields from an episode of the Learning channel…there you will see the “floating” of objects on film….

  Has anyone try submind communication with another person?…or has even tried?….This is when two people meditate at the same time and talk with each other…records on paper after its done…then tell each other what they wrote……

  Posted by: Kieth at January 19, 2004 05:31 PM

• whatever
  Posted by: you at January 19, 2004 05:57 PM
• if someone knows how to do telekinetics or hypnosis contact me
  Posted by: jim at January 19, 2004 06:00 PM
• Dreams are made to be destroyed. Nightmares are forever.
  Posted by: Fabian Marie
  at January 20, 2004 07:08 PM
• Thanks Keith. It’s nice to know that you believe and also are freaking out hairdressers with pyschic tendancies in your part of the world. I’ll check out the stuff from the library but I’d really like to know if anyone has any thoughts about ‘brain power’ and if your avergage joe is using a certain percentage of it, or whether we use the lot of it, or not. You catch my drift right?

  Err fabian, how do you destroy a dream?

  Take it easy. x
  Posted by: Lauren at January 25, 2004 07:24 AM

• Dreams are able to be controlled………Nightmares are dreams we don’t understand its message……
  Posted by: Kieth at January 25, 2004 05:51 PM
• I have read every post on this site and several others…i have listened to the views and opinions of others about the power of our minds…ever since i was a child, i have been infatuated with the concept of being able to move objects with my mind, to read others’ thoughts, to travel at the speed of thought…i have done meditation before…but for some reason when i close my eyes and try to focus, i see millions of blurry falshes of things that i am unable to sipher…why?…in my attempts to move objects with my mind, i have succeeded far lees than failed…but i don’t think a single attempt was a failure(in vain)…every time, i feel more enlightened afterwards.. i feel more at peace…am i on the right track to harnessing my mind? let me know…DirkWayne86@yahoo.com
  Posted by: Lazerus at January 26, 2004 07:50 AM
• can any1 teach me telekenet
  Posted by: leo at January 28, 2004 03:19 AM
• We-ell. Nice to know this forum thingy is active (last post was yesterday…so it’s gotta be).

  Alright. Telekinesis is real. Those of you who are just saying “I want to do it because it sounds cool!” should just shut up and go away. It’s not something to impress people with. It’s not something to impress yourself with. Chances are, you don’t even TRULY believe in it.

  Now…Telepathy, and reading “subminds” (no offense in the quotations, that’s just not what I call it), are…eh, well, improbable. See, it’s been scientifically proven: All objects act upon the same frequency (or close to). That frequency isn’t that hard to bounce with “super powers” (heh) and get it to jump a couple centimeters. However, minds…well, minds work in so many levels that telepathy with a stranger (or a new accquaintance) is virtually impossible. Brainwaves work differently, and you can’t just “bounce” somebody’s brainwave. It could hurt them, shock them, whatever. Somebody you’ve known for a long time…and practice with, day in, day out..that has a possibility. Maybe you can fine-tune to their wavelength and they to yours. But not random strangers.

  And I don’t believe in god, so I am not saying any of this is based upon religion or spiritual things. I don’t think it is, personally. What we can actually comprehend is like 1 millionth of reality. So there are obviously things that we haven’t discovered yet.

  Telekinetics…people are easily discouraged. (I’m just ranting now.) See, a beginner will do the pinwheel, the toothpick, or a string-with-an-object-suspended-from-a-ceiling trick. They will probably bounce the proper frequency once or twice, get sooo happy, jump around, and then end up breathing all over the test object, rendering everything useless. You can randomly hit an object all you want. You have to dicipline yourself to be able to smack that frequency good. Practice.

  Knowing your subconcious is really, really important. I mean…that’s the fellow who’s pretty much doing the work. It’s a belief thing, and if you can convince your subconcious, you can do anything. So I guess in a way, the subconcious is responsible. But what if your subconcious has dark motives? What if you secretly want to kill a billion people? Eh? Then…well, then you have a problem. Meditate. Find your motives. WHen you get good at finding them, tweak them a bit. If you can tell your subconcious doesn’t believe in telekinesis, then…whap it until it does. There you have it.

  It’s not a step thing. There aren’t “steps” to telekinesis. Sure, there’s meditation. Sure, there’s convincing yourself. But…you don’t require control in order to do this. Quite frankly, you could be some sort of rampaging bull. It’s just better if you aren’t. ;) Takes lots of practice. Lots of mental strain.

  Eh…also, telekinesis is not a form of the devil. O.o;; Sorry, whoever has that idea in their head is totally wrong. It isn’t a form of god, Jesus, or whoever else you choose to worship–it’s a form of yourself. You’re basically just using other means of moving something. *shrug* Not too complicated, when you think about it.

  So…telekinesis isn’t taught. That’s true. You can get guidance. You can get happy little bunnies that laugh at you all day long. It doesn’t matter. You don’t teach this stuff. Want a pointer? Practice. Find what works for you. It’s a style thing, like drawing, reading, writing…whatever you do. And if you copy off of someone else’s style…you’ll never advance. ;)

  Just know where you are going and you’ll be fine.
  Posted by: Anya at January 29, 2004 03:46 PM

• Cool… a nice blog. I’m going to start my own one.
  Posted by: areacode at January 30, 2004 07:47 PM
• I have caused glass to explode. Not by willing it. Only in times of intense anger or frustration. This FRIGHTENS me. Is there any way to control it? I’m not saying it happens often, but just knowing it can happen makes me nervous. Perhaps this “ability”? could be put to better use – or – simply (and probably preferably) squashed. It seems so base. Like some animalistic reaction to an inability to communicate rationally. Is that what it is? If anyone has a similar problem and better yet some advice, please contact me. Tracy
  Posted by: Tracy at January 31, 2004 12:43 AM

• LOL
  Posted by: Kieth at January 31, 2004 02:01 PM

• Control is a must…..anyone not believing that is nuts….heh……….ever got mad at someone and think of choking them?…No control would cause death….BUT….thats my 2 cents……….I myself is not a beginer……y it can be taught…everyone with a soul is on a frequency……..but all in all….nice post ANYA!!!!!!!!
  Posted by: kieth at January 31, 2004 02:07 PM
• This stuff intrest me and i have been wonderig about this for quite sometime and it came to my attention that telekenesis runs in my family is it something that can be passed down….kinda make it easierfor one to learn?
  Posted by: T Diddy at February 3, 2004 02:15 PM
• Well..hey, telekenesis is a great thing guys and there shouldn’t be anyone who doesn’t want to be able to have it. I, myself have another power i have aquanted from my grandmother. I can predict a little into the future, maybe 3-5 minutes, but it has to be from the top of my mind, because when i start thinkin and looking for better details it doesnt happen.

  As well to that, i believe it should come naturally to you, you have to relax and let it flow into your mind. Maybe this wouldn’t help you much with telekenesis, but thats how prediction works..
  Posted by: Djsysstem at February 16, 2004 11:46 PM

• your al liars and insane patients.
  Posted by: at February 21, 2004 07:39 AM
• telekenesis is simple, order, in your head the object to move.

  Ask and ye shall receive
  Posted by: Cap’n Jack Sparrow at February 21, 2004 06:45 PM

• Kieth… in you list of step to train you subconcious mind, you mentioned dicipline… How do you dicipline yourself?

  Email me please
  Posted by: LoSeR at February 25, 2004 12:17 PM

• Ummm..How???…..Don’t you have an idea?…..

  Sorry I only post on boards..=-)
  Posted by: Kieth at February 26, 2004 06:55 PM

• i`m very intertested in moving objects with my mind so if you can give me any help at all i`ll appreciate it.

  thanks
  Posted by: keith at February 27, 2004 03:48 PM

• I can tell you 2 websites where you can learn these stuff.

  Telekinesis.mine.nu

  and

  www.psipog.net

  But Thanks to Telekinesis.mine.nu I learned how to do Telkinesis in just one day.I don’t know if you could too but just check these 2 out.

  But I can tell 1 Excercise that can get you there in developing quickly and that’s called the psi-wheel so please listen and read it.

  You may need 1 need or a thump tack and sand something to stick the needle on or you could just stick the thump tack.

  Plus a paper cut into 2 inches in each side and fold it in half,then open it then fold it the opposite side,and open.

  and then fold it in a diagonal side and open and then last then the opposite side.

  After that’s finished put the paper on top of the point and don’t think of anything or don’t care if it moves or not you will see results but I’m not sure if you will do it as fast as I did.

  But anyways Good Luck!
  Posted by: Mike01025 at March 2, 2004 07:08 PM

• my telekenetics are real
  Posted by: diva at March 3, 2004 05:50 PM
• my telekenetics are real
  Posted by: diva at March 3, 2004 05:50 PM
• my telekenetics are real
  Posted by: diva at March 3, 2004 05:50 PM
• I just read this entire thread and it seems that Kieth is the man. I would like to append to his thoughts however. Before I get started, I would also like to say that I can move a psiwheel. I learned telekinesis from www.psipog.net.

  To begin Kieth, it sounds to me like you are going for complete self control before you start trying any telekinetics. That is an excellent idea because when I started TK(telekinesis), I didn’t have much self control. I started in November and practiced off and on until now. I practiced with a psiwheel. Because I don’t have a good amount of self control, it is harder for me to control my psiwheel’s movements. I can spin my psiwheel all I want, but it is very hard at times to control the direction of my psiwheel’s spin. So good luck when you start training TK. I think you will accomplish much in a very short period of time because of your self discipline.

  On another note, I think the success rate for TK, or any psychic ability for that matter depends on belief in what you are doing. A wise Jedi once said “Do or do not, there is no try.” I heartily agree with this statement because I have found that often when I am TRYING to do telekinesis, I fail at doing what I want to do. For example, when I TRY to spin the psiwheel opposite the direction that the psiwheel is currently going, I don’t get much accomplished. However, when I believe 100% that I will DO it, it works out. The hard part is believing 100% in what you want to do. After a while however, when you do these things(like spinning a psiwheel) everday, it becomes easier to believe.

  When I quote Yoda, I don’t actually believe Yoda because of his FICTIONAL character. I only quote him because every single word in that quote holds true far too often in my practices. By the way for all of you people that want to learn TK, just go to www.psipog.com and read some articles that are posted on the site. Psipog is an excellent resource for those who wish to enhance the many ‘psionic’ abilities.

  Have fun developing these ‘skills.’
  Posted by: nickochee at March 11, 2004 06:17 PM

• It helps once self control is achieved and mastered the rest of the journey will come …clear……
  Posted by: Kieth at March 11, 2004 06:38 PM
• has anyone in here ever hear of the word chi? if so tell me what it means.
  Posted by: at March 13, 2004 07:40 PM
• RE: $70 per hour…:->

  Ok if you guys really want to pick up the art of telikenetics then listen carefully.

  Telikenitics is something that is in us all, but it is a skill which needs to be self taught with many hours of intense practice. Mind of Matter is the key and you need to beleive and not try to had, just do it.

  If your just starting out with this stuff i would reommend focusing your energy on constructs/PsiBalls. This will let you feel what it is like to have your energy directed to one part of your body (your hands).

  I have been practicing Telikenetics for a while now and I have defentally improved myself. I now have developed my powers into TK; Telepathic suggestion, Astral Projection, OOBE and Lucid Dreaming. However I can teach those who are wiiling to learn but like I said telikenetics needs to be self taught and you need to be aware of all detail that comes with.

  And yes, for those who want to know about bending a spoon/fork, the answer is YES it can be done. but this does take practice and it took me about 3 weeks of intense practice to be able to bend it with my mind.

  Posted by: MrT at March 15, 2004 07:58 PM

• Telekinetics is a very interesting subject. I first started developing skills at an early age. My parents would not allow me to do it because they thought it was evil. I could move pencils, pens etc. I also had the ability to see things. You could shuffle a deck of cards and then hold a card in front of me and I could tell you the card. On average I would get 45 right out of 52. I could also tell someone the dates of all the coins they had in there pocket. I went to High School at a Goverment facility that helped me develop more skills. I had the ability at 16 years old to remember groups of up to 60 and 70 both numeric and letter number patterns. I was tested to have an IQ of 243 also at age 16. 1 year 2 monthes ago due to an accident, I now have absolutely no skills. My short term memory is almost completely gone, I will wake up in the morning not remembering even having written this. I guess my point is, I have tried to re-develop my skills and I believe they are gifts, not things that can be developed. For me it has nothing to do with mind over matter, I could do it. Now I can’t. As I believe the sun will rise tommarow, I believe that these powers exist. But not for everybody.
  Posted by: Bob at March 15, 2004 10:49 PM
• i strongly disagree with the above post, Telekenisis is defentally in everybody. It only takes practice and beleif in order to produce effects.
  Posted by: MrT at March 16, 2004 03:15 AM
• I’ve been researching this telekinetics stuff and I really dont understand it. I try but it never works. Plus Im only 13 and the stuff is pretty confusing- but Im determined to learn it because the best time to learn it is around my age. (I read that somewhere)- anyway I think i’m capable of it but I just need some serious help. email me anyone- plz! thanks in advance. Oh and does anyone know how long you have to practice before moving an object?
  Posted by: Marie at March 16, 2004 09:02 PM
• you all are weird devil worshipers go to hell or beleve in god it your deision
  Posted by: Laura Lopez at March 17, 2004 01:47 PM
• If I became good enough at Telekenetics would I be able to fly? Like float myself into the air using my telekenitic skills?

  Posted by: mordalfus at March 17, 2004 05:59 PM

• i am just a bit clarovoint you know can perdict things but want to do telekenetics
  Posted by: wierdo at March 18, 2004 05:24 PM
• i belive you can get help with tk with lamda and hypergama posibly alpha brain wave in lamdp or ultr gamma (trust me i know this stuff) you can have shock telekenetics or you fall from the eifle tower and stop your selp from falling
  Posted by: weirdo at March 18, 2004 05:47 PM
• I’m 18 years old, I’ve been doing telekenetics from the age of 6. My grandfather in Ukrain was a master in that feild. Now I carry on the tradition. To do telekenetics it takes a lot of self will and self power. You have to force your mind to think outside your limits, then you will be able to move light objects. When I was 6 i started to force fethers to slow down from falling. It took me almost a year until i could do this. At age 10 i could pick up pins and nails up to 3 meters of the ground. I am now looking for new ways to expand my knowledge. My grandfather is dead now and i never had the chance for him to tell me the ways to flowt over the ground. It would be great if some one who has this skill could teach me and i would most gladly teach you how to use your minds power in the right way.
  Posted by: professor mishka at March 20, 2004 06:15 PM
• here’s a story for everyone. my dad signed me up for a class in a california where they teach you how to be a river rafting guide. we were in norther california and had just passed the oregon border when we stopped for gas. (there were 8 of us total in the van) we were all in the gas station buying all sorts of shit…food, drink whatever. But while waiting in line to pay there was this disheveled man in about his thirties who had a 10 inch scar on his inner forearm running from his elbow to his wrist. he was at the register when the cashier asked for his credit card. by this time the man had taken a few steps away from the counter…pulle dout his credit card and tossed it into the air. (from my experience, in trying to throw a credit card onto a counter would atleast show some sort of effort in aiming) but he didn’t. So he tosses the card out in fron of him and literally hovers over the counter (while spining) and lands wiht ease in front of the cashier. so while the cashier stood in awe the rest of us took our double takes. my brother and i looked at eachother at the same time with that (what the fuck) look in our eyes. The cashier wouldn’t settle with that so she asked him to do it again. she hands him back his card and by this time 6 of us had crowded around him to geta better look. He takes his card, flicks it into the air and again it hovers over to the counter and lands right in front of the cashier. I’ve always been a ‘see it to believe it’ kind of guy and even when seeing this i had a hard time believing it. none of us were gonna let this slide so my brother and i started asking this guy if he was for real. He said yeah as i picked his card back up and threw it into the air, but this time it jsut hovered in front of him…in front of us. My brother and i started moving our hands around it to make sure no strings were attached and to our amazement there was a mastercard just hovering in mid air (while spinning) right in front of all of us. next thing we saw was the guy move his hands in a certain way and the card floated around his body and came to a rest in front of himagain. My bro asked if he could try and the guy said yes so my bro grabed the card out fo the air…inspected it and tossed the card in front of him only to see it fall tot he fall. ( he thought it was the card that was rigged). by this time there were atleast 12 otherpeople gathered around in a circle just staring in disbelief. so we started talkin to this guy askin him if he could make any other htings float. So he looks around, grabs a receipt off the counter, crumples it up and lays it in his palm. nex tthing we know it rises out of his hand. i had to know how he did this so i asked. he replied saying that about ten years earlier he had a farming accident so they had to replace his right ulna (one fo the forearm bones) with a metal rod. ever since he said he had been able to make things move. he even said that thre are times where if he concentrates long enough he can levitate himself but he said that even that takes a lot of fuckin conentration. anyways what was real shady about the whole thing was that he said he was a window repair man, but when we saw him leave in his white van the words on it read joe’s painting service. some crazy shit. but its the truth and there were about 15 witnesses that day. i think i’m gonna go travel some more…especially to some boonieville gas stations…you never know what or who you’ll run into. peace
  Posted by: torea at March 23, 2004 07:18 PM
• i’m telekinetic, pyrokinetic , cryrokinetic and i can make kiballs and i can astralproject though iam only thirteen i can do many things it actually scared me at first
  Posted by: zay at March 24, 2004 11:44 AM
• Hi I’ve had a lot of dreams that I was telekenetic and I got real intrested in how to do it so if it’s posable can some one teach me please. my e-mail address is meninabonita21@hotmail.com. Thank you for your time
  Posted by: Michelle at March 28, 2004 08:08 AM
• yo whats up people. i read all the posts and i still dont get how to do TK. i tried all i can. i focused onn the object for long and nothin. i really believe the tk is real. i just have troubles. if any of you know tk pleaze email me and write step by step on how to do it. my email address is gamexpert777@hotmail.com. pleaze help me
  Posted by: dan at March 28, 2004 08:57 PM
• Oh boy….lol….hmmmmmm….try meditation first…clear your mind and sub-mind…….
  Posted by: Kieth at March 29, 2004 06:52 PM
• I have little experience iam moving a pencil now
  Posted by: Michael at March 30, 2004 12:08 PM
• well to whom it may concern moving an object is not that hard all you need to do is focus your mind, a good way is to use all the negative energy in your body ie. all the bad feelings you may have or hurt or grief just muster it all up and focus. i moved a toy car from one side of my window ledge to the other using this technique (no bullshit, honest) the other way is to use all the love and good feelings you have in the same way, more is achievable this way but im not saying what as the result was so overwhelming that i began crying and thats not the typical behaviour of a 29 year old.
  Posted by: sjh at March 31, 2004 02:15 PM
• I believe that telekenetics is possible but that only certain people have the ability t do it. But iff thats true i would like to know if i have the ability to do it, and if i do, i would like to learn. iff you could help,please e-mail me.

  doberman_spikes_69@yahoo.com
  Posted by: john at April 3, 2004 11:28 PM

• everything is mental, all that one percieves is in the mind

  like the kybalion states “the all is mind the universe is mental” if you really want to tap into the secrets of the universe check out the kybalion . if you can understand the

  basic principles you can do amazing things
  Posted by: at April 4, 2004 04:49 PM

• if you cannot find the kybalion then email me
  Posted by: at April 4, 2004 04:51 PM
• nlightens@msn.com
  Posted by: at April 4, 2004 04:52 PM
• I’ll pursue the research on this topic and try all I can to achieve telekenatics. But I’m driven only by curiosity and if this is not enough, then I suppose it’s not for everybody.
  Posted by: JP at April 6, 2004 10:31 PM
• I want to learn telekinesis,does anyone know someone who could teach this difficult task to me?
  Posted by: RedBirdMan77 at April 8, 2004 02:22 PM
• My journey is finished..=-) i will diclose detail at a later post……interesting how many people have been posting here…….
  Posted by: Kieth at April 16, 2004 10:13 PM
• disclose……ooppss sorry for the mis-spelling…….lol
  Posted by: Kieth at April 16, 2004 10:14 PM
• if nyone can teach mi telekenetics, plzzzzzzzzz email mi at D.Avirame@emanuel.nsw.edu.au

  thx sooooooo much!

  mwa
  Posted by: danzy girl at April 20, 2004 03:55 PM

• hi ive been trying to move things with my mind for about 3 years but i cant seem to get my mind clear. i need some tips on how to clear it. if you have any ideas they would really help. i would also like to learn how to astroproject.so if n e one can teach me telekensis or astroprojection i would really appreciate it.

  please e-mail me at sjsylvia15@yahoo.com
  Posted by: sylvia17 at April 28, 2004 06:11 PM

• i was tryin to bend a spoon one night and i was consentrateing hard when my whole body started to tingle is this a good thing?
  Posted by: steve at May 2, 2004 05:07 PM
• i would love to learn how to astroprojection and telekensis.. i’ve seen it on SoWeird.. its a show on tv at night time.. some of you guys have heard of it or seen it.. i want to know how to do those things.. would anyone please teach me how to do it? send me an email.. brownyscorpio@hotmail.com put the subject telekensis/astroprojection.. thanks
  Posted by: unknown at May 22, 2004 10:31 PM
• i would love to learn how to astroprojection and telekensis.. i’ve seen it on SoWeird.. its a show on tv at night time.. some of you guys have heard of it or seen it.. i want to know how to do those things.. would anyone please teach me how to do it? send me an email.. brownyscorpio@hotmail.com put the subject telekensis/astroprojection.. thanks
  Posted by: unknown at May 22, 2004 10:31 PM
• are u all nutz
  Posted by: Chris at May 28, 2004 03:53 AM
• are u all nutz
  Posted by: Chris at May 28, 2004 03:54 AM
• I was trying to move my sister out of my house and she fell out the window. I felt bad to use my powers for evil but yoda told me its ok if I really want something bad enough.
  Posted by: Chris at May 28, 2004 03:56 AM
• I was trying to move my sister out of my house and she fell out the window. I felt bad to use my powers for evil but yoda told me its ok if I really want something bad enough.
  Posted by: Chris at May 28, 2004 03:56 AM
• i’m 13, i can already do this a little, and only when im really mad, the last time was that my mom screamed at me to bring her the clothes out of the dryer, and i was walking in to the utility room, and the door to the dryer popped open, and just now while i was writing this, i went to fix a coke, and the lid off the bottle flew accross the room and landed in the sink, and also, when i day dream or am asleep, i see just like a second of an event, and later on that day or week, it will happen. i wanted to know how to strengthen this so i have control over it, and can use it any time without having to be mad, u know e-mail me aljy51@aol.com please label the subject so i know its not spam
  Posted by: ukilledkenny at May 28, 2004 08:45 PM
• Sounds like you may have found a lot of possibilities, but if you still need someone capeable of telekenetics. E-mail me.
  Posted by: bill at June 5, 2004 08:24 AM
• wheni am very angry i use my Telekinesis powers to drive them out of my room.
  Posted by: Nathaniel Lim at June 14, 2004 09:07 PM
• wheni am very angry i use my Telekinesis powers to drive them out of my room.
  Posted by: Nathaniel Lim at June 14, 2004 09:07 PM
• Please I have to and willing to wait for someone to teach me Please I love to learn I can Show friend and pass it on to others me and my sometimes can move stuff but I guess we want to do it on q Please help us!!!!!!!!!! We dont got an email address just put it on the message borad
  Posted by: Rina at June 17, 2004 05:07 PM
• Please I have to and willing to wait for someone to teach me Please I love to learn I can Show friend and pass it on to others me and my sometimes can move stuff but I guess we want to do it on q Please help us!!!!!!!!!! We dont got an email address just put it on the message borad
  Posted by: Rina at June 17, 2004 05:07 PM
• Please I have to and willing to wait for someone to teach me Please I love to learn I can Show friend and pass it on to others me and my sometimes can move stuff but I guess we want to do it on q Please help us!!!!!!!!!! We dont got an email address just put it on the message borad
  Posted by: Rina at June 17, 2004 05:07 PM
• This is my first night reading and learning about telekinesis. About 30 min. ago I was in my room concentrating on a pen I’d hung on a little chain off a rod on my bed. I read about a method of using your hand and connecting though it. Within a few seconds, I felt an intense tingling in the tips of my fingers. I stopped, and did it again, and the tingling came back. Does this usually happen the first time you try it? I’m curious to know If it’s starting to work for me.
  Posted by: Mike at June 17, 2004 11:10 PM
• hello can anybody help me
  Posted by: at June 18, 2004 05:07 PM
• Wow, this is my third day practicing tk, and I was just trying to move a ball of foil, and my fingers heated up. It was great. The ball didn’t move however, but I know that a hot feeling in the fingers means you’re getting somewhere.
  Posted by: Mike at June 19, 2004 09:50 PM
• I JUST TRIED TO MOVE APAPER CUP AND WHEN I WAS CONCENTRATING MY HAND WENT COLD IS THAT GOOD
  Posted by: at June 20, 2004 02:19 PM
• I JUST TRIED TO MOVE APAPER CUP AND WHEN I WAS CONCENTRATING MY HAND WENT COLD IS THAT GOOD
  Posted by: at June 20, 2004 02:19 PM
• help me just post it
  Posted by: at June 23, 2004 03:56 PM
• “your al liars and insane patients.”

  You know, it was a good idea for this guy not to post his name up, because otherwise everyone could mail him and tell him how stupid it makes him sound and what a caged mind he’s got. I couldn’t live like him if you paid me.
  Posted by: Dedrodri at June 23, 2004 05:15 PM

• “are u all nutz”

  This guy, too.

  All you ppl, begging for help… begging isn’t going to work. I myself can’t lift the tiniest scrap of paper, and I’m still trying, which is good if you are… don’t give up. Stop begging others for help and start learning. You can’t learn how to walk until you try it yourself with your own willpower.

  Some ppl use their anger, some ppl use a state of absolute calm… I like the calm, I find it works best, but maybe that’s just because I’ve got no anger left in me.

  And if you’ve tried and felt something… whether it was a tingling or cold feeling or something like that, it’s a sign that you’re beginning to pay attention to the energies, and that’s good
  Posted by: Dedrodri at June 23, 2004 05:21 PM

• Telekenetics is the harnessed power of the Human mind we as humans use 10% the other 90% can be define as the Sub-conscience, telekenetics is the Harnessing of the Sub-concious.. when the brain gets “hot-wired” like in a brain tumor or Coma the brain can become powerful or can turn you into a Vegatable.. the brain in a strained situation also allows the Sub-conscience to express it self thats why more telekenetic experiances happen during a half-asleep state.. its cause the Conscience is tired and the Sub-Conscience is begining to take over.. sounds like theory but its what i’ve discovered.. i began Telekanetics 3 years ago and at first it was when i had to be tired to accomplish anything now i have in a way harrnessed it that i can Consciencely do it.. but at the same time it can send you body energies (if you can call them that) out of whack.. meaning that anger depression or Sadness can spark off a “Telekenetic Fit” i’ve been so pissed off that Drinking Glasses.. exploded in a Clockwise direction on the dining table. Telekenetics is a Scary yet intriguing topic.. for an object to move with out any physical Force applied is boggling to logic Thought.. for as Isaac Newtown said (well i think he said it).. every Action has a reaction, and every force has a equal and Opposing Force. if you guys have any inquires Email me on saki_destroyer04@hotmail.com
  Posted by: John Doe at June 27, 2004 06:39 AM
• I am interested in learning telekenises, so if anyone can teach me or atleast give me some tips, please email me at claudiabmalagon@hotmail.com. thnks.
  Posted by: claudia at June 30, 2004 01:48 PM
• Science is what we build our lives on and science always clashes with religion. When something disagrees with both, no matter how much evedence is present, ignorance will prevail.

  I made it about half way down the page and skipped to the bottom so i appologize if this sounds off topic from what was just mentioned.

  We all have come here looking to find an answer…looking for something that no matter what is said, it’s not going to change what we believe. Every one of you will leave here with a stronger feeling that this exists. I could say and show you that it does not exist, but you would all still believe. I could also sit here and tell you that it exists and that i lift objects all the time. and once again. you will not believe me.

  with that aside i will share with you my experiences and ideas that i have, and maybe someone will learn something more than just a little “it works really” or “it’s a bunch of crock”

  for a few minutes, i want to ask you to set aside everything that you believe…even religion. After this you can go back and think of what ever you want.

  early on in evolution, we had these gifts that we know of today as “powers” kind of like prehistoric X-men type thing (a little over exagerated but you get the idea) we used this girft to find food and defend ourselves. we lived in dangerous times with lions and bears and all these animals that would use us as food. we learned to speak and communicate becuase it was easier than using powers. humans like to find easier ways to do things. likwise most of us stopped using the other powers as well. others continued to use it and passed it on. but as time grew, there were fewer and fewer people using it. It popped up every now and then. people like nostrodomus and some of the writtings in the bible and there are very many unheard of people as well.

  It’s not like choping off your hand and when something falls you still think you can catch it with that hand. This is something we have never used.

  But there are somethings that we do use today. We may not use telekenetics now-a-days but we do use other forms of our powers. prayer is a form of our power. people believe that by praying they are talking to God to give them the ability to do something or for something to happen but. It is really them Willing it to happen.

  Now if you really want to move things with your mind…you have to think differently. your trying to ask something to move and get your power from other things. you have to know that it YOU that has the power. you are just an over educated monkey. why do you think we are at the top of the food chain? the power! the dolphin is smarter than we are and they are still stuck in the water being eaten by predators.

  To begin with lifting things with your mind you have to forget everything religion teaches you. it slows down your development. to make it easier to understand i will create a math problem for you. 1+1+1-1-1+1= 2 right? ok well lets take out all of the religion and beliefs of getting energy from trees and God and you just get 1+1=2. your answer doesn’t have to be tripple checked and you don’t have to think so hard. it’s more concrete.

  I’m not saying this will be an easy task. most of you will become discouraged and give up. besides. it’s our nature to take the easy route. thats why we lost the power to begin with. When you are willing to this, you will find yourself advancing further.

  There is alot more than that. I could probably write a book on this so i basically paraphrased a 400 pg book. excuse the bluntness of it all. there is alot more. I’m sure that like i stated in the begining, most of you will turn your head at this becuase it goes against both science and religion. (and also becuase i wrote this fast and didn’t use spell check so it looks unprofessional)

  I can tell you how to re-learn this power. I’ll admit it’s going to be hard trying to unlearn what you’ve always been taught. and it will take alot of time becuase, it uses your brain…something that needs to be exercised.

  E-mail me if you want to learn more. but don’t expect me to give you every answer. I too am on the long road and not as far ahead as many would like to be. but to know the truth should be a reward in itself.
  Posted by: Chris at July 3, 2004 06:13 PM

• Hello to those of this website, in this post I will sound very critical and disbelieving of you and for this I apologize in advance. First of all I must tell you that the concentration and meditation is all for naught, you cannot open your mind it is closed to you for a reason. Christian family man Keith I believe you truely wish for you to stop misleading these people, they do not need your misguilding. As for others who are posting for the want of learning this anchient art you are looking for answers to questions that do not begin in our own time, they originate in fuedal Japan and China where the art of Chi and Ki were first discovered strengthened and honed to a refined art. Anchient sources tell us that there were warriors in both China and Japan that were the most feared and hated for they used thier katanas as a last resort, thier primary weapon was telekenetic, pyrokenetic, elctrokenetic, and so on and so forth with all known elements, man made things and anything else they could use. I am only 15(go ahead and make your remark of it Keith) but have studied the Art my entire life as my father and mother were killed in 1990 by a force the police and other national forces could only discribe as supernatural although death certificates explain it away as gang wars(I lived in L.A. during this time). thier spinal cords had been snapped in five spots with no signs of struggle, no hand prints or indentions in the back from a weapon of any sort they were simply ripped sideways in these locations. I will post more later as to the history and teaching of the Art if anyone wishes after this post Flame my E-Mail if you wish I have posted it. Goodbye for now(TACOS!!! YAY!!!).
  Posted by: Kainiando Hunter at July 3, 2004 07:17 PM
• Hi everyone, this is a phenomenol site, it’s like an open line about telekenesis. here are my thoughts

  In life i can prove very little but this, I am an 18 year old male preciding in Canada, I live a relatively clean life. I recently came very interested in this telekenesis and telepathy stuff. I myself want to be capable of it. It’s not too become cool and show my friends, I just want to learn it. That’s all there is to it. I don’t think it’s superficial, I only want to discover something different than the normality of my society.

  Now, I have never talked to god or been abducted by aliens, yet I listen to and read things about the paranormal all the time. Where I’m going with this is the argument of whether any of this is possible or not. this may seem a little long winded but i have to get it out. There are 3 or 4 possibilities depending on how you mix them, or so i have been able to conclude:

  1. God does exist, as do aliens and the lot, telekenesis, telepathy and all. I myself would like this to be true oh so much. With the deepest depths of my mind i want god to exist, yet he never answers me and i can not prove his existance. If telepathy and telekenesis is caused by evil forces and I unlocked it, this would make me utterly content. for if there is an evil and hell there is also a heaven and god. If i unlocked this i would know there is something out there and I would spend my life following god. I only wish there was a way to know. this is way off topic, but it relates to the possibility of our minds having powers we do not know of. I know that i should be dead by now, in several circumstances throughout my life i have seen how i could have and possibly should have died, hit by a car, or laying neck deep in snow, alone over a cliff with a snowboard attached to my feet etc. I believe that something else saved me besides luck, but can not prove so.

  2. God does not exist, our minds do have hidden powers. I do not know if only some of us would have them or all of us. I have never once seen another person do something that would prove this possible. I would like to, the reason I believe in the possibility of human beings having hidden power is because we continually hear about it, on tv and on late night talk shows, coughARTBELLcough. I hope that every story is not a hoax for someone to crave for attention.

  3. There is no god, anything you have heard about psycho/telekenetic and telepathic powers are just made up stories and legends. No lochness monster, no sasquatch it’s all fake. I wish there was a way to know.

  One thing that puzzles me to the extent of it being unbearably confusing is if god does not exist, how do we. It is impossible to create matter and energy from nothing. Are we not matter, is the sun not energy. How

  in the world is it possible for humans to exist. Take an empty glass look at it and fill it with water. You can’t, it’s impossible to create matter. So how does the glass exist, I have racked my brain trying to find the answer, and I’m sad to say I can’t find it and I don’t believe there is one. Peace
  Posted by: Mike at July 5, 2004 07:10 PM

• Did you know the Universe is expanding? Ever heard the theory that one day it will collapse in on itself, and the big bang will occur again, and again and again. Just kidding, the universe is not only expanding it is forever accelerating. Dispite the force of gravity, and no source of acceleration, the universe is moving away from itself at increasing speed.

  Mike, you pose a challenging comment. Without a creator how can we explain this Universe. As Mike said, the law of conservation of mass and energy states matter/energy can never be created/destroyed. This means the matter/energy making up you and me and everything we see has always existed in the same exact amount as it did 10,000,000,000 years ago. This means matter, having no beginning, is infinitly eternal. Imagine you are standing at a road stretching from your left to right. The left side of the road is the past, the right side is the future, and where you stand is the present. If you look to the left, into the past, and look for a beginning of the universe you will discover there isn’t one. You will see the “time line” of the universe come all the way to the present and will then gradually go by as time passes. If everything in the universe dissapeared today. And you measured that piece of road from the present to the past you would find only eternity. How has the universe existed in eternity, yet has not yet seen tomorrow. By pure logic, the universe is impossible, it always has been, and always will be, haveing no beginning and no ending. This is where logic fails, because logic is governed by three dimentional terms. Logic is also very people friendly. Try to concieve a true geometrical line (defined: “a straight line haveing no beginning and no end). Here is a cool experiment. Take some of todays scienctific discoveries and compare them with the spoken words of God in the Bible. For example the law of conservation of mass/energy (the amount of matter and energy in existance will never change”, and compare it with “Behold, I am God, I do not change.” There are many more like “be fruitful and multiply” compared with the cellular stages in which a fetus developes (if you dont know the cells literally absorb and multiply 2 then 4 then 8 …)
  Posted by: Derrick at July 6, 2004 11:59 AM

• All i can say is if u can teach me how to do it…….im willin to do anything.
  Posted by: Kendrick at July 12, 2004 10:58 AM
• Wow this my second post from a very long time. I can’t believe this is still pretty active.When i get angry stuff starts shaking in my house, its sorta weird but i dont know if its telekinetics or just something else. I sounded so enlightened way back then in my post in January :)…..hopefully all you people find what your looking for in telekinesis.
  Posted by: person at July 14, 2004 09:44 AM
• can anyone teach me how to do telekinesis just email me at cody0427@yahoo.com please i want to learn so badly.

  Posted by: Cody at July 15, 2004 07:56 PM

• [comment -- consisting of several book chapters -- deleted]
• Alright, first of all … i won’t teach you anything

  second, yes, i can perfrom telekenesis

  Alright, all what’s above this thread is bullcrap..

  it’s nothing like “force it to move”

  don’t be such and fucking idiot to type that shit…

  just stop this thread due a lack of knowledge about it…

  email me if you want to argue, i’ll never come back to this forum again
  Posted by: PLEASE at July 31, 2004 04:39 AM

• i would like to apply for the job send me more info on how to apply.
  Posted by: floyd coley at July 31, 2004 11:33 AM
• It occurs to me that with all abilites there seems to be a price to pay weither its a sore arm or a broken bone, so researcher say someone did reply with developed abilites of telekinesis could you guarintee that there would always be a safe level maintained between the mind and reality, for instance say the subject was trying to move something overly strenous is there a possibility that the subject could go into his mind and not be able to come out.
  Posted by: E at July 31, 2004 08:45 PM
• euhm i’m new to this site and didnt read all above and its too much to read anyway, i would like to learn telekinesis can someone mail me on speciaal001@hotmail.com who can teach me
  Posted by: kyle at August 5, 2004 04:16 PM
• If any of you can ecctually do Telekenesis, then can you E mail me (Raziel_a@hotmail.com) i’ve been wanting to do it for ages, and i just need help in order to achievie it. Please can you help me out
  Posted by: Raziel at August 6, 2004 10:55 AM
• will teach the right persons TK $50.00 hr. email me at floydcoley@sbcglobal.net for more info.
  Posted by: floyd coley at August 9, 2004 03:28 AM
• i can make a flame mouve left to right and stay still but im stuck can some one email me please and tell me how to go on

  Posted by: madced at August 10, 2004 08:37 PM

• I am trying to learn telekinesis. I try to pratice it everyday. Can someone please e-mail me and tell me a way that I can get better at telekinesis? Thanks. My e-mail address is horselover2011@msn.com.
  Posted by: Rachel at August 20, 2004 05:02 PM
• Comments are closed

This is the original post, with comments through December 2003.

July 22, 2003
move small objects just a little

Job opening:

I am looking for someone who is capable of moving physical objects with his/her mind (telekenetics). This is for scientific experiments to enhance and harness this power. If you are able to move small objects just a little you qualify. This only applys to telekenetics. The job pays $75.00 an hour, 40 hours+ a week. Thank you.

No overtime?

[via polaroidgirl]

Posted by zota at July 22, 2003 12:27 AM

Comments

• i’m teleketyping this right now…
  Posted by: t.f. cat at July 23, 2003 11:52 AM
• You only think you are teleketyping. But really, I am dreaming that you are teleketyping. So it is all a figment of my imagination; I want Macaroni Collages.
  Posted by: polaroidgirl at July 24, 2003 06:27 PM
• I have been teaching myself a little bit by reaserchin sites on Telekenesis, I can bearly move a small object for a split of a second maybe more maybe less it’s weird when I think that it’s moving it stops since I was no longer 100% concentrated on the actual movement but that it was. Like we only use one side of our brain, the other side is usually used when daydreaming your mind wonders off, using the other side,. It’s kind of like that.
  Posted by: Liz at August 4, 2003 04:29 PM
• i would like to reasearch an learn how to perform Telekenesis. I’m willing to do whatever it takes to learn this an be 100% devoted to it. If anyone is like me or can teach me even a little i’d be Very grateful, Thank you. Reach me by e-mail at jtda0510@hotmail.com
  Posted by: Jonny at August 11, 2003 12:44 PM
• Seriously are you actually able to make objects move with your mind….I would love to learn how to do that….If anybody could teach me how to do that I would be gratefull….one of my pet peeves is that you learn something new everyday…im hoping that I can learn this interesting skill…

  Patronus
  Posted by: Patronus at August 20, 2003 11:19 PM

• My ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is. It surrounds us, penetrates us and binds the galixy together. With the force all things are possible. Moving the smallest object to my Jedi starfighter out of the dunes on Tatooinne. May The Force Be With You.
  Posted by: Obi Wan Kenobi at August 28, 2003 09:59 AM
• It is all in your mind. Focus! It’s all about focusing.
  Posted by: someone at September 15, 2003 11:57 AM
• I am really interested in learning Telekenesis and will do anything it takes. I’d love to be able to move things with my mind so I can feel that I’m different from everyone else. If you can teach me how to use Telekenesis please E-Mail me ASAP
  Posted by: MoonFlower at September 20, 2003 02:48 PM
• Since everyone online only talks about doing it,tell me more about it,theres not enough things online about it so all u ppl that wanna learn telekenesis u must know alot about it so tell me!!! plz’n'thank you
  Posted by: Chaela at September 25, 2003 05:00 AM
• I want to learn telekenesis meybi you kan me help.
  Posted by: Julian at September 29, 2003 04:33 AM
• i’ve been trying this for about 4 months now and i can move like a ring…or pencil, nothing too major like big books or anything. BUT I’M TRYING!!! ;)
  Posted by: Rogue at October 6, 2003 04:50 PM
• a few years ago my brother and i were at a cafe i put my hand near the can of coke it moved away from me and when i retracted my hand it moved toward me, my mental state at the time it happened was absolute calm i sent this can of coke back and forward for some time i expected it to move without doubt we were both shocked. soon after we took of home to try to repeat it but never have been able to again mainly because i think we tried to. i think the idea of all things we think impossible are possible its just that our brains are so used to thinking they are i think you have to manipulate yourself into thinking that they are every day occurences and have no doubt, which is extremely difficult because the brain has to believe it 100 percent.theres no bullshit in this story
  Posted by: at October 11, 2003 07:31 AM
• Hello everyone. A lot of you have asked about how to make telekenesis work, so I will give you a few things you should know, and a few ways to develop your own telekenetic abilities. As for what makes telekenesis work, it is the belief that you can do it, or at least that it is possible and that you can do it. The more devoted (or perhaps a better way of saying that is the harder you try at it), the stronger you will be at it; Not necassarily the faster it will happen. Now as for a few ways to develop your abilities: COMPASS – fill a clear glass full of water and then put a toothpick in it. As it floats in the water, have you hands around the glass (they don’t have to be touching), and Will the toothpick to spin one direction or another. After you can do this without too much difficulty, try Willing the toothpick UNDER then water. A reason this is a good way to exercise your abilities is because there is little resistance between the water and toothpick. PINWHEEL – Have some gum, or perhaps clay or play-doh and put a ball of it on a FLAT surface. Take a needle, or a toothpick and stick it straight up in the play-doh. Next, take a small (about 4 inches by 4 inches) square piece of paper and fold it diagonally twice so it is shaped somewhat like a small pyramid and place it on the toothpick. Place your hands around the paper and Will the paper to start spinning (be sure it isn’t your breath that spins it). Visuallizing energy coming from your hands to the object(s) sometimes helps for different people… though if you start learning like that, you might have to ALWAYS imagine it that way. I hope this helps you, Paladeus ß.
  Posted by: Paladeus at October 16, 2003 04:26 PM
• very interesting stories. I would love to believe them, but I do not. I am most likely among everyone when I say that I would love to have this power, and I am not saying that it is impossible, I just just not sure that anyone living is able…Pleas if you can, prove me wrong.

  Posted by: sal at October 30, 2003 10:15 AM

• i just got out of training my whole life since i was 3(i am now 13) to become a master of telepathy. i was trained by my granfather kunaba. i can open and close doors, i can lift many different kinds of masses(no more then 200 lbs though), and other stuff. if u would like to learn of this art, contact me at konosawa@hotmail.com

  Posted by: kunaba offspring at October 30, 2003 04:31 PM

• ill be waiting
  Posted by: kunaba offspring at October 30, 2003 04:33 PM
• someone please give proof to what they say….or teach me
  Posted by: kjhkh at October 31, 2003 09:31 PM
• could anyone help me to learn telekinetics please email me at littledemon106@hotmail.com and address the subject as telekinetics
  Posted by: bob at November 4, 2003 06:19 PM
• I am very interested in learning Telekinesis. If anyone is interested in teaching me or helping me out. Kindly reach me in my email address.

  Posted by: Rekha at November 9, 2003 07:09 AM

• could kunaba pleas email me at littledemon106@hotmail.com
  Posted by: bob at November 9, 2003 05:49 PM
• i move things with my mind and read minds
  Posted by: mind reader at November 11, 2003 05:20 PM
• if you cant email me thn can you teach me on here
  Posted by: bob at November 11, 2003 07:11 PM
• You guys are something…its not a consentration or a will to move objects or thinking about an object to bend or move….you’ll know when you have that ability to move things or levitate…….the first thing is the inside of your head…the left side tend to become “open” ….your right hand tingles….and other feelings and sensations you cannot explain…before moving objects or trying to..your mind …your mind’s voice will speak to you…….I know this seem like a BS story….but being taught is not the answer…….

  “Jim how about this for starters..keep your feelings running to the grinder.”

  Posted by: keith at November 12, 2003 06:44 PM

• You are right it does sound like BS…but then again a lot of things do. So you are saying that concentration or practice is not a factor for this ability?
  Posted by: none at November 14, 2003 06:54 AM
• does anybody remember duncan? If you do you will know what i mean. write on boards. i will find you.
  Posted by: eden at November 14, 2003 08:31 AM
• does anybody remember duncan? If you do you will know what i mean. write on boards. i will find you.
  Posted by: eden at November 14, 2003 08:31 AM
• There are many simple factors for this abilty…for one…the mind and yourself as a person has to learn the art of control and disipline….(and spell check…J/K)

  Say to one thing…how can you practice for something you dont know wat and how to practice for?, or consentrate for something that you have no idea what to or how to practice…like….with what?…..I can say you must have the ability to up-levels…I know this may not be understandable….BUT…for the ability to move an object for one spilt second requires a persn to advance to that level…..as for myself I can say the first level is having the ability to communicate with your unknown mind..the parts that is not yet trained…..(Sub-mind writing)
  Posted by: kieth at November 15, 2003 07:09 PM

• Wow..my keyboard is out of wack..!!..sorry about that…..

  hope you know what I mean……..1) Free Writng is the first step….
  Posted by: Kieth at November 15, 2003 07:18 PM

• I always thought that telekenetics sounded cool, I never knew if i believed it or not though. I always tried to believe that i had a power that was unseen. I found that i could channel an energy though my limbs, i first feel a tingling rush trough my arms, then it flows through my finger tips. I feel heat and so can anyone who gets near my hands. I want to be telekenetic, but is this a step in controlling it? I am a beginner and want help.
  Posted by: Chris at November 15, 2003 09:28 PM
• Hold on to a pencil and on a blank piece of paper…what happens?………..

  Your mind and sub-mind must learn to communicate together…….hhmmmmmm….like your thinking the action of your left hand picking up a pencil…well..the action of your mind tells your hand to do this….with your sub-mind working with your “awake” mind….not only your hand attempts to pick up the pencil…your sub-mind also picks up the pencil…but with energy unseen……(getting it now??…)

  For myself….I went through this by accident…I started my steps by first opening the door to my submind…..it can be bad and it can be good…..my sub writing started after I used the Ouija board…..it was very scary at first but then I got the handle of this….now dont get too excited about this..I would use protection against the unknown before even attempting to open your submind………funny thing….I did this 12 years ago….and now…I ended up here on this message board….how????….by free writing the keys…I think there are people or persons out there that claim this claim that…I’m thinking my purpose is to “watch”…….Hey..my tax return will be bigger this year!!!!……

  oh by the way..my hand turned cold at first….not warm……that lasted a few minutes…..te sub-mind’s energy manipulates the atoms of physical things……

  “The Coral Castle in Florida was made by a person by using Telekenetics”
  Posted by: kieth at November 16, 2003 05:19 AM

• I guess if there was a thought…can I myself move objects??……I can say I’m just about there….The one thing you must hve is disipline…imagine how many bikini tops would come off if everyone knew how??…ha-ha
  Posted by: Kieth at November 16, 2003 05:27 AM
• i would love to know how to free my mind but i never can
  Posted by: andrew at November 16, 2003 11:34 AM
• im new to this kenetic power stuff so if anybody can give me some advice please email me at lildudesk8s@yahoo.com

  i only got into it cause i watched a film called MOMENTUM and my bro inlaw told me ppl can actually do it so im now wanting to do it so please someone email me a nd give me some advice
  Posted by: crowther at November 16, 2003 03:01 PM

• Try the art of meditation…and self hypnosis………=-)
  Posted by: Kieth at November 17, 2003 06:11 PM
• i am wanting to know if anybody can teach me how to do telekinesis. PLEASE?PLEASE?PLEASE?PLEASE?PLEASE?PLEASE?PLEASE?
  Posted by: balubulubul at November 18, 2003 05:59 AM
• i love moving things with my mind
  Posted by: renae at November 21, 2003 12:20 PM
• LMAo….ooookk
  Posted by: keith at November 22, 2003 05:52 AM
• tell me more about the sub-mind?
  Posted by: spike at November 27, 2003 07:12 PM
• Sub-mind is a word that I can best describe the “other” voice you hear during meditation…the “feeling” one gets when a person attempts to move an object without touching it….an alternate you I guess is the best explaination…the best way to “teach” your mind to communicate with you is firstby meditation….it may seem that its to different beings but all n all it just one being…’you…well like your left brain talking to your right…is the best way to put it…I started out this way….The sub-mind is the energy that allows you to move things…Example is mind-reading…..which is one of many step….

  Step 1) Meditation…Allows begining communication

  Step 2) Meditation..Book excersizes….Allow your sub-mind guess what page a certain word is.

  Step 3) Meditation / Self Hypnosis…….Allow your body as a whole become one.

  Step 4)Disipline

  Step 5) Book exersizes / mind reading

  Step 6) Sub-mind “real contact”…to which thiscan be scary

  Step 7) Spirit communication / disipline

  Step 8) Deep meditation

  Step 9) Preminition — You may guess right in trivia all the time…(My favorite while playng trivia persuit)

  Step 10)Deep meditation / Book excersizes/ Disipline

  Step 11) Moving an object during meditation

  Step 12) Dispine / deeper meditation / real contact

  Step 13) Moving an object “light”

  Step 14) Moving an object while looking at it.

  I myself am on Step 10

  Sorry about the mistypes

  Keith
  Posted by: keith at November 29, 2003 08:12 PM

• ok ive been thinkin about moving things with my mind for a long time its jsut never happend i mean i do get dreams (visions) and my mom says they are from God. So i wondering if there is like a special word or prayer to unlock your telekinesis that God has taken from us for our own good. But anyways if anyone knows how to move things with there minds please let me know so i can do it too please email me tallsticks87@peoplepc.com
  Posted by: Adrian McLaughlin at December 1, 2003 09:43 AM
• Umm….havent you been reading??….lol.=-)

  Posted by: Kieth at December 1, 2003 03:43 PM

• I have no idea what I’m doing and I really need to learn how to move things with my mind.Ever since I’ve whatched a movie, I always wanted to learn. That was ever since I was in 3rd grade. I am now in 9th grade and still havn’t accomplished anything. Not even a little. I don’t know what to do! Will someone please help me.

  Brittany

  Posted by: Brittany at December 2, 2003 04:56 PM

• Telekinesis/telepathy is indeed very real. However, it is not a physical capability that we posses. If it were, then wouldn’t it make sense that such abilities be exploited? Being able to read the thoughts of others and manipulate physical objects is something everyone would like to do. How much would you pay to have such a gift? What would you compromise? I’m sorry, but I have not read in the headlines lately: MAN (or) WOMAN ABLE TO MOVE OBJECTS WITH MIND!

  Indeed, if concentration, focus, faith, discipline, meditation, etcÖif any of these things allowed for the development of telekinesis/telepathy, why wouldn’t it be taught or even documented for that mater? Furthermore, those instances which are documented cannot be verified. The reason is because telekinesis/telepathy is not a physical ability we posses. If it were then surely the billions of incredibly intelligent people who have walked the earth before us would have made such a powerful tool availableÖright?

  Are you thinking yet? WRONG, like I said in the beginning: Telekinesis/telepathy is indeed very real. I am contradicting myself, but so what? As Buda said, “Contradiction is not the grounds for falsity, neither is the lack of contradiction the grounds for truth.”

  The reason telekinesis/telepathy is indeed very real is because people do it, but contrary to popular belief it is not due to a physically mental ability (otherwise Einstein would’ve had it down in 10th grade when his IQ hit 185)! You know the scientific teaching that we only use 10% of our brain? That is not true and was disproved in 1999 when the MRI was perfected. We use ALL of our brain, wellÖI don’t, but you probably do.

  And the question persists: so then how is it done? Honestly, I am not sure or I would probably be writing books about it and making money instead of writing forum posts. However, I do have an idea about it thanks to history and a friend. From the evidence of the past I believe that just because telekinesis/telepathy is not a PHYSICAL ability doesn’t mean it isn’t a SPIRITUAL ability. That’s right, spiritual. But I’m not talking about praising the Lord, I’m talking about demonic intervention. I am a Christian and I have friends that are Satanists who appear to be able to manipulate objects, making tables levitate up to three feet off the ground! Please, before I continue I am not here to fool or lie to anyone. I am only going by accounts I have heard about from them. They don’t mess around and wouldn’t bother wasting their breath to impress me. Anyway, after I got to know one of them better, she told me a little secret. She told me that it wasn’t her power at all that caused tables to float, candles to ignite when she blew on them or cuts to appear on her body then disappearÖshe told me it was “Bruth.” A demon that was possessing her! She said that it constantly threatened her and sent her into suicidal depressions. She asked me for help because I knew Jesus so I told her to go to Mrs. Grayson because she was once a real witch before she accepted Jesus Christ, and understood the craft. My friend told Mrs. Grayson that she first felt the mysterious while at a friend’s house using the Ouija board, kind of like how Keith initiated his sub-writing. She began her meditation with a few friends and one day they visited a “Gathering” (a dark arts meeting) and soon after joined the Satanists. They attended a few weeks and then began to realize their powers as their meditation dipped deeper and they communicated more frequently with, what she believed to be her “intuition.” Sometimes her meditation became so focused she could see her “intuition” and described it as a young girl, with blue eyes that glowed and blonde hair that sparkled. However, when this happened she would always feel like there were hands clasped tightly over her head with the claws reaching into her mind. She was terrified to discover when she made the decision to accept Christ into her heart and live for Him that this “intuition” was really Bruth. When she closed her eyes to pray she saw her little blued eyed, blonde haired friend and was confused because she was no where close to being in deep meditation. All of a sudden the little girl changed into Bruth and attacked my friend. Mrs. Grayson who was sharing the love of Jesus Christ to her had to rebuke the demon in the name of Jesus Christ because it was causing my friend to convulse and scream to the point where she couldn’t breath.

  The demon left her immediately! There is power in Jesus Christ as it says in the Bible, Ephesians 1:18-23,”I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he [God] has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in heaven, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”

  When my friend accepted Jesus Christ into her heart, she didn’t care that she was no longer able to levitate tables, or do anything else because it was only Bruth using her! It was not worth it since she was a slave in order to have it.

  People, if you want to have a part in the real and true power of Jesus Christ email me at Levi4Jesus125@yahoo.com

  Posted by: truth at December 4, 2003 02:36 PM

• Hey iv always tryed to make things move and have been inspired my whole life and iv never found the answer to making it work but i would love to do this and if anyone would like to help then could you mail me please!!!!!
  Posted by: Show Me at December 4, 2003 03:25 PM

• Well…….ya hit the nail on the head…somewhat…..As apart of my disaipline..Church is part of my life….but as in my case its both..physical and spiritual…and yup…I initiated my subwriting that way and able to keep that part open…but as for bad demons..I never had that problem…and yes..moving object is real

  Hey Brittney…send me 100 bucks and I’ll tell you..lmao..
  Posted by: Kieth at December 4, 2003 06:30 PM

• Cool Keith! What church do you go to?
  Posted by: truth at December 5, 2003 06:54 AM
• To be honest, I just searched for this subject in Google on the off chance that there were some laughs in store, but having read the more serious postings here, I’m actually gonna try the toothpic in the glass of water thing. I’m hoping that it’s not gonna take a few months to achieve this. If I am expected to wait this long, please let me know.

  Keep up the good work peeps. Keep thoes things moving.

  As for the job placement… Sorry, my tallents are better suited elsewhere :D
  Posted by: gedness at December 5, 2003 04:22 PM

• Catholic…….I went through the whole bit from since I was young…..So I guess that is a reason why I’m..”Protected” against evil that may pass, but as far as something being real….it is.

  The toothpick trial will not work…..

  its been years for me to get to this level……..

  $75.00?…lmao…thats pocket change=-)
  Posted by: Keith at December 5, 2003 04:51 PM

• I check this board about every night..FYI
  Posted by: Keith at December 5, 2003 04:52 PM
• making $75.00 and hour for 40+ hours a week, thats not a good use for your talents?sounds pretty nice to me.

  anyways, i have been trying to utilize my ‘mind power’ for as long as i can remember.for the most part i cant move objects with telekinetics, but i have had some very strong experiences with telepathy, so i believe that the power is hidden in there somewhere… meditation is very helpful though, especially when you are very stressed.
  Posted by: Zeit at December 7, 2003 05:55 PM

• A lawyer makes better money and the only thing he can do is steal from your pocket without looking…lol…

  Scotch and a cigar does wonders for stress..

  Unlocking and training your mind does wonders to prepare you for trying to move objects
  Posted by: Kieth at December 8, 2003 02:36 PM

• nice to see you again
  Posted by: hansi at December 11, 2003 12:23 AM
• hmmm, i have been reading about telepathy and telekenesis alot lately, mostly on the internet, the majority of the sites are authored by people that are obviously in touch with something far away from reality, but then there are a few that i truly believe, and of course i want to believe. i think we all want to believe, dont we? who wouldnt want to be able to move things, make things float and such?

  then i read all these posts of people saying, i want to learnhow,, someone teach me, and thats it, i dont think there is a set of guidlines for something like this, everyone is different in mind, body, and soul, its like trying to wear a custom tailored suit that wasnt made for you, it doesnt fit, and it wont work. everyone is different.

  im sure trying to aquire this ability would take countless hours of meditation and dedication. and for what??? do you want to impress your friends, or maybe to become powerful. those selfish motives will probably never let you totally become in touch with that part of “you” that allows you to do this. this is something deeper than personal gratifacation.

  i have many questions, as im sure everyone does, and i dont expect all the answers, maybe just your thoughts, someones thoughts, please email me at your conveniance

  joshua_atc@hotmail.com
  Posted by: josh at December 11, 2003 11:51 PM

• It takes years….and I try just because I have the urge to…a challenge of many challenges of mankind……evolution….there is a set of guidelines I have posted to train your mind, but with research….. others would have to fill in the blanks…….thats how a suit would fit your being..=-)…….

  why????……why does a guy drink?…smoke?…why do people go to church?…why live?………mankind is selfish yet we can fly…we can kill….we can destroy ourselves….(the only animal that can do that)……

  you have to condition yourself to do this….
  Posted by: Keith at December 13, 2003 06:11 AM

• Is anyone here actually able to move things with there minds or are you guys just all interested in learning? I have been able to move small objects after about 15 minutes of focusing if anyone has any advice on how to strengthen the power email me…and only serious people please!
  Posted by: Necromancer at December 17, 2003 10:16 AM

• 15 min?……if you need advice on how to strengthen….how did you ever start to move in the first place….nice try…..lmao

  It took me years to reach this far……I’m going to try in the Spring……

  Posted by: Kieth at December 17, 2003 06:28 PM

• Keith I doubt you have any mental power it seems all you are good at is critizing people. And 15 minutes is alil long for me I wanted to do it faster thats why I asked….

  Perhaps your years of practice were wasted?
  Posted by: Necromancer at December 19, 2003 09:42 AM

• Please…read closely and pay more attention to what I have posted in the past…then your opinion would hold some merit…..there is a difference between doing…wishing….and hoping….

  LMAO…..wasted???……”You need to learn how to walk before you can run.”

  Your a teen eh?….like 15??

  (Just a question – I’m not trying to be mean.)
  Posted by: Kieth at December 19, 2003 04:34 PM

• Actually I am not trying to be mean either lmao I am actually 21 for your information. And my thing about strengthening was because I wanna be able to do it in less then 15 minutes I hardly have that kinda patience, in a game where its almost 100% nessesscary. And It was an accident actually when it first worked for me, I was just playing around and it worked the first shot for me I moved a tack in about 15 minutes thats why I mentioned it….needless to say over a year it worked about 3 times for me and I tried about 6 aha…..but if you got any suggestions I’d be glad to hear it!
  Posted by: Necromancer at December 23, 2003 10:31 AM
• What ever happaned to the owner of this site that was looking for some1 for $75? I am just interested cuz I never heard from her since I started checkin this place out 2 weeks ago lol

  Posted by: Necromancer at December 23, 2003 10:38 AM

• Your path is different then mine….my self control and excersizing my submind is a must…else others that can detect your…lets say..”Gift”….many may feel threatened…..imagine your anger to someone without control…I knew of a woman who can see other people’s ORA…..which is a gift within itself….BUT anyway……once I “start” and succeed in moving objects with-out my being doing the action…I will not post on this board after…there is a group of “gifted” I guess you can say……that I can say is NEW for ME…….
  Posted by: Kieth at December 23, 2003 02:25 PM
• Keith..actually sencing aura’s is not a problem for me and I always had that gift, thats not one you can work on you are just born with it..I am empathic is more of a politically correct way to put it so people will understand…but you are right our paths are very different I just hope our lil talk here will not effect either of us on our fates
  Posted by: necromancer at December 25, 2003 03:39 PM
• Actually this person sees…or can see aura’s from focusing on a person…….I’m not sure how she can do this..(I never asked)………………oh since your 21……I’m 32 with a family….yeah family man…..I can say I’m up there in the income chain but I wanted to share a little about myself…I’m not a 15 year old wishing behind the computer….heck I’m as normal as can be ….(Ooopss did I just say that..)…lmao
  Posted by: Kieth at December 27, 2003 07:50 AM

end of 2003.