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		<title>By: zota</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>zota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ruseriousdusty -- if that is your real name -- it sounds like you have several axes to grind. Perhaps you have some personal connection to these people you are insulting? Or perhaps you a baselessly speculating about people you do not know at all.

In either case, not a helpful contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ruseriousdusty &#8212; if that is your real name &#8212; it sounds like you have several axes to grind. Perhaps you have some personal connection to these people you are insulting? Or perhaps you a baselessly speculating about people you do not know at all.</p>
<p>In either case, not a helpful contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: ruseriousdusty</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>ruseriousdusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dwayne, Dusty, Scribbler: are you all alts of Robert?

Robert came across as a very creepy individual with a lack of any kind of ethical standards and would have done anything to have his perfect little retro kingdom intact without the inclusion of new comers. 

As characters, I loved Billys arrogant behaviour, I liked Steves battler image, and I liked Walters down to earthness.  Robert came accross as a mentally impaired slimeball.

Roy does not look like a boyscout, he comes accross as a childish man, who lives outside of reality who spends his life chasing an unrecognised high score whilst trying to bring down a man he sees as satan.

The reason Robert is no longer around, is because he is not capable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dwayne, Dusty, Scribbler: are you all alts of Robert?</p>
<p>Robert came across as a very creepy individual with a lack of any kind of ethical standards and would have done anything to have his perfect little retro kingdom intact without the inclusion of new comers. </p>
<p>As characters, I loved Billys arrogant behaviour, I liked Steves battler image, and I liked Walters down to earthness.  Robert came accross as a mentally impaired slimeball.</p>
<p>Roy does not look like a boyscout, he comes accross as a childish man, who lives outside of reality who spends his life chasing an unrecognised high score whilst trying to bring down a man he sees as satan.</p>
<p>The reason Robert is no longer around, is because he is not capable.</p>
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		<title>By: dusty thomas</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>dusty thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching the film a couple of times, I thought Robert came out as the most legit and honest person involved (even with the edits) in the whole process.   I am curious as to why he was the one going around the internet forums  defending the others who obviously did not come off as such?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching the film a couple of times, I thought Robert came out as the most legit and honest person involved (even with the edits) in the whole process.   I am curious as to why he was the one going around the internet forums  defending the others who obviously did not come off as such?</p>
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		<title>By: Scribbler UK</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribbler UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! came across this article having watched King of Kong last night and really enjoyed it. I don&#039;t want to sound naive but is it not possible that Steve Weibe, Billy Mitchell, Walter Day etc were all fully aware of the documentary and basically &#039;in on it&#039; .
The film was in my mind made to promote awareness of Classic gaming and competitive gaming, and also Twin Galaxies, the film has to be watchable by as many and as varied people as possible, and so requires a dramatic story (beginning, middle &amp; end) rather than being a a collection of &#039;geeks&#039; rambling about chi sets and klll screens!
I have to say Robert T Mruczek comes across as pretty much the most likable and genuinely passionate of the &#039;gamers&#039; in the film, i just dont understand how this has ended up with him retiring from a job he was clearly both proud and capable of doing???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! came across this article having watched King of Kong last night and really enjoyed it. I don&#8217;t want to sound naive but is it not possible that Steve Weibe, Billy Mitchell, Walter Day etc were all fully aware of the documentary and basically &#8216;in on it&#8217; .<br />
The film was in my mind made to promote awareness of Classic gaming and competitive gaming, and also Twin Galaxies, the film has to be watchable by as many and as varied people as possible, and so requires a dramatic story (beginning, middle &amp; end) rather than being a a collection of &#8216;geeks&#8217; rambling about chi sets and klll screens!<br />
I have to say Robert T Mruczek comes across as pretty much the most likable and genuinely passionate of the &#8216;gamers&#8217; in the film, i just dont understand how this has ended up with him retiring from a job he was clearly both proud and capable of doing???</p>
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		<title>By: Culch.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kings of Kong</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Culch.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kings of Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] personal story with hopes and dreams, tears and frustration, love and loyalty. It’s about “how history gets documented ”. More than anything else it&#8217;s a fascinating glimpse into an odd outpost of human [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] personal story with hopes and dreams, tears and frustration, love and loyalty. It’s about “how history gets documented ”. More than anything else it&#8217;s a fascinating glimpse into an odd outpost of human [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zota</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>zota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an awful lot of liars, dwayne.  I look forward to your documentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an awful lot of liars, dwayne.  I look forward to your documentation.</p>
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		<title>By: dwayne richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwayne richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I f feel confident about calling Steve weibe, his family, his friends and the crew of this film LIARS.  But I also want to call Walter Day the biggest LIAR of them all.  There was alot of collusion between Walter and the film producers to make things out worse then they should of been. Walter consulted his tM think tank and they recommended he supports this film.  He orchestrated alot of manipulation to get the playrs to comply. But there is a much bigger lie that both him and bill mitchell foisted on us all that is going to make roy look like a boy scout and steve a saint.  stay tuned for my doc, &quot;the perfect fraudman, the donkey con and other arcade legends.

dwayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I f feel confident about calling Steve weibe, his family, his friends and the crew of this film LIARS.  But I also want to call Walter Day the biggest LIAR of them all.  There was alot of collusion between Walter and the film producers to make things out worse then they should of been. Walter consulted his tM think tank and they recommended he supports this film.  He orchestrated alot of manipulation to get the playrs to comply. But there is a much bigger lie that both him and bill mitchell foisted on us all that is going to make roy look like a boy scout and steve a saint.  stay tuned for my doc, &#8220;the perfect fraudman, the donkey con and other arcade legends.</p>
<p>dwayne</p>
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		<title>By: zota</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>zota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of like saying if your speedometer is broken, then you can&#039;t really be speeding...

Look, I can see where this is going. You seem deeply certain about all of this, Will, and  I&#039;m not anywhere near as certain about it as you are.  So either you know a lot more than everyone else involved, or you&#039;re just totally certain without actually knowing why.

If you feel confident about calling Steve Weibe, his family, his friends, and the crew of this film all liars, then you go right ahead. If your world is that black-and-white, I&#039;m not going to be able to make you see shades of gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of like saying if your speedometer is broken, then you can&#8217;t really be speeding&#8230;</p>
<p>Look, I can see where this is going. You seem deeply certain about all of this, Will, and  I&#8217;m not anywhere near as certain about it as you are.  So either you know a lot more than everyone else involved, or you&#8217;re just totally certain without actually knowing why.</p>
<p>If you feel confident about calling Steve Weibe, his family, his friends, and the crew of this film all liars, then you go right ahead. If your world is that black-and-white, I&#8217;m not going to be able to make you see shades of gray.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Schenk</title>
		<link>http://zota.org/2008/02/07/donkey-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Schenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find what you reference.  Gregory Erway says that they did not open any new tracks at this time, meaning that they didn&#039;t create the DDR category until later in 2006.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;But you&#039;ll also remember that all of this fell during a time when the website did not allow additions of new tracks. This was during the initial time that Brien was &quot;unavailable&quot;. You were falling desperatly behind in score entries and don&#039;t believe you had the capacity to open the new category at that time. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If Robert was &quot;falling desperately behind&quot; in making the updates then clearly they were maintaining the database at this time.  Just not fast enough.  What they weren&#039;t able to do was to create the new DDR category.  This could be the reason why Steve had the record for the full three years; namely that they meant to change it and for technical reasons were delayed or sidetracked.  (Greg certainly implies that he thinks it should have been reclassified before.)

As Robert says above, Walter Day

&lt;blockquote&gt;
WD - &quot;And, in November, 2004, it was publicly stated that Steve&#039;s score would be re-categorized due to the presumption that he played on a &quot;Double-Donkey-Kong&quot; board. However, Twin Galaxies continued to evaluate that decision, but that decision was never put into effect.&quot;

These are Walter&#039;s own words which seem to support my own recollection about the re-classification of the scores -- that they were announced but never enacted.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So yeah.  Score in the official database.  Change never enacted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find what you reference.  Gregory Erway says that they did not open any new tracks at this time, meaning that they didn&#8217;t create the DDR category until later in 2006.  </p>
<blockquote><p>But you&#8217;ll also remember that all of this fell during a time when the website did not allow additions of new tracks. This was during the initial time that Brien was &#8220;unavailable&#8221;. You were falling desperatly behind in score entries and don&#8217;t believe you had the capacity to open the new category at that time. </p></blockquote>
<p>If Robert was &#8220;falling desperately behind&#8221; in making the updates then clearly they were maintaining the database at this time.  Just not fast enough.  What they weren&#8217;t able to do was to create the new DDR category.  This could be the reason why Steve had the record for the full three years; namely that they meant to change it and for technical reasons were delayed or sidetracked.  (Greg certainly implies that he thinks it should have been reclassified before.)</p>
<p>As Robert says above, Walter Day</p>
<blockquote><p>
WD &#8211; &#8220;And, in November, 2004, it was publicly stated that Steve&#8217;s score would be re-categorized due to the presumption that he played on a &#8220;Double-Donkey-Kong&#8221; board. However, Twin Galaxies continued to evaluate that decision, but that decision was never put into effect.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are Walter&#8217;s own words which seem to support my own recollection about the re-classification of the scores &#8212; that they were announced but never enacted.
</p></blockquote>
<p>So yeah.  Score in the official database.  Change never enacted.</p>
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		<title>By: zota</title>
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		<dc:creator>zota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, as Gregory Erway states above, the database wasn&#039;t being updated regularly at the time.  Robert &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-03-05T21:38:06+00:00&quot;&gt;Day&lt;/del&gt; Mruczek publicly announced the &quot;Double Donkey Kong&quot; category in the Fall of 2003.  Steve Weibe was notified of this by phone, email, and public forum postings.  Walter Day repeated this to Weibe on the Twin Galaxies forums in 2004.  

Twin Galaxies has made it very clear that they believe Weibe made his 2003 score on a non-standard board.  They made it equally  clear that Weibe was not the Donkey Kong record holder based on that score.  Claiming that he actually did have the score just because their database guy wasn&#039;t making updates is disingenuous to say the least...  

I remain confident in my reading comprehension. The links are above.  You can read them. You can continue to ignore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, as Gregory Erway states above, the database wasn&#8217;t being updated regularly at the time.  Robert <del datetime="2008-03-05T21:38:06+00:00">Day</del> Mruczek publicly announced the &#8220;Double Donkey Kong&#8221; category in the Fall of 2003.  Steve Weibe was notified of this by phone, email, and public forum postings.  Walter Day repeated this to Weibe on the Twin Galaxies forums in 2004.  </p>
<p>Twin Galaxies has made it very clear that they believe Weibe made his 2003 score on a non-standard board.  They made it equally  clear that Weibe was not the Donkey Kong record holder based on that score.  Claiming that he actually did have the score just because their database guy wasn&#8217;t making updates is disingenuous to say the least&#8230;  </p>
<p>I remain confident in my reading comprehension. The links are above.  You can read them. You can continue to ignore them.</p>
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